Thinking to be a Cryer - Guild Wars Forums

Braxton619 · Jun 04, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17

Hi I am thinking of making a cryer and don't know what primary profession I should make him. I am planning to do Urgoz's Warren, and most of the elite areas. Should I make a Me/E, Me/A, Me/N or what? I seen many cryer builds on pvxwiki and don't know what would be best to use. Could someone recommend me a good primary profession and a secondary profession?

Thanks!!!!

Kiva-chan · Jun 04, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Just go Mesmer primary so that you can switch your secondary based on what your group needs/what area you're doing?

Braxton619 · Jun 04, 2009, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Which secondary would you recommend to begin with though?

Taixen · Jun 04, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43

Considering that you'll need to ascend before you reach any of the area's you'd be participating in groups with the secondary you chose doesn't overly matter as you'll have already ascended by the time you reach the area you plan to do.

I personally cose /E as my Mesmers Secondary so that I could use GoLE to help with energy management as I got used to it.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Jun 04, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50

Me/A
Assassin's Promise Mesmers are godly.

Boneyard Spleeneater · Jun 04, 2009, 02:41 AM // 02:41

I second the AP Mes. I run that with Discordway, and other than some dungeons, I can go pretty much anywhere I want with little if any trouble.

Hanging Man · Jun 04, 2009, 03:13 AM // 03:13

yup go /A.
When you start to VQ Me/A AP+"YMLaD"+Vanguard Assasin+CoP blows shit up

Rasco · Jun 04, 2009, 04:43 AM // 04:43

Personally, being a monk allows me to use Jesus Beam

Jesus+ Cry of Pain = FTW [Allusion much?]

ofc mezzies works too

FYI: Jesus Beam = Ray of Judgement

ShoGunTheOne · Jun 04, 2009, 05:52 AM // 05:52

making a E/Me with Ether Renewal can garentee you with almost unlimited energy

Rasco · Jun 04, 2009, 06:01 AM // 06:01

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Originally Posted by ShoGunTheOne

making a E/Me with Ether Renewal can garentee you with almost unlimited energy

The question is? Will it blend.

No but really, how do you expect to have decent damage output, other than every 12 seconds after CoP recharge. Imo not viable.

sportacus · Jun 04, 2009, 06:13 AM // 06:13

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Originally Posted by Rasco

The question is? Will it blend.

No but really, how do you expect to have decent damage output, other than every 12 seconds after CoP recharge. Imo not viable.

*cough* ... Arcane Echo smoke... don't breathe this...

Rasco · Jun 04, 2009, 06:20 AM // 06:20

and how about the 30 second downtime of arcane echo? *cough *cough *laughs uncontrollably

okay ill shut up.

MercenaryKnight · Jun 04, 2009, 06:41 AM // 06:41

Me/mo or Mo/me is pretty much the best you can get. Max out the smiting and bring arcane mimicry as well as arcane echo and probably auspicious incantation for energy during the arcane echo. That just helps incase not using a bip or to get initial casts off.

Also, think everyone should consider ice imps instead of vanguard sins since they provide a snare and aoe damage while surviving to cast multiple times.

sportacus · Jun 04, 2009, 06:54 AM // 06:54

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Originally Posted by Rasco

and how about the 30 second downtime of arcane echo? *cough *cough *laughs uncontrollably

okay ill shut up.

fwiw, the *cough* was in reference to the will it blend videos. I like them.

however ,if the goal is to have more CoP whammage, then I guess Glyph of swiftness can be used.

Elephantaliste · Jun 04, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55

you can use Echo elite aswell, or Glyph of Renewal for more versatility.

GW Karasu · Jun 04, 2009, 07:25 AM // 07:25

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Originally Posted by Taixen

Considering that you'll need to ascend before you reach any of the area's you'd be participating in groups with the secondary you chose doesn't overly matter as you'll have already ascended by the time you reach the area you plan to do.

I personally cose /E as my Mesmers Secondary so that I could use GoLE to help with energy management as I got used to it.

Do you actually need external energy management o.O inspiration magic has quite a lot of e-management skills. The few times I came without (and not even a 1hp bipper could satisfy me) my build just consisted of fast-casting combo's.

sportacus · Jun 04, 2009, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by Elephantaliste

you can use Echo elite aswell, or Glyph of Renewal for more versatility.

True, but the chain of responses was about the useage and damage output with an ether renewal cryer, so Echo or GoR wouldn't be part of the build unless mimicd.

Elephantaliste · Jun 04, 2009, 08:24 AM // 08:24

we aren't talking exclusively about EtherRenewal, but in case of Ether Renewal, unless it has some synergy like Infuse Spamming or like Doa Ether Cryer team builds with symbiosys, dedicating a elite slot just for e-management of a cryer build is probably a waste.

To Op : Mesmer is a good choice since you can call hexes like VoR with more attribute points, you can add E-Surge to the spike aswell.
having Mo as secondary of primary allows you to use RoJ aswell.

Riot Narita · Jun 04, 2009, 12:24 PM // 12:24

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Originally Posted by MercenaryKnight

Also, think everyone should consider ice imps instead of vanguard sins since they provide a snare and aoe damage while surviving to cast multiple times.

Take both :-D

Get other party members to take a variety of summons. But if I have to choose just one, I'll still take the assassin - invaluable for taking the initial aggro and making a mob waste its first round of skills. Great for quickly taking down healers too - apply any hex/condition, send in the assassin... target is knocked down (ie. interrupted)... and while its down, the assassin's unblockable damage plus the party's damage turns it into a smear on the ground.

HawkofStorms · Jun 04, 2009, 09:15 PM // 21:15

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Originally Posted by Rasco

The question is? Will it blend.

No but really, how do you expect to have decent damage output, other than every 12 seconds after CoP recharge. Imo not viable.

The point is for the other 5 Cryers in your team to be doing the exact same thing. Since its armor ignoring damage, every single mob will be dead in 20 seconds, giving your skills a chance to recharge.

Jun 04, 2009, 12:17 AM // 00:17	#1
Braxton619 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: A/W	Thinking to be a Cryer Hi I am thinking of making a cryer and don't know what primary profession I should make him. I am planning to do Urgoz's Warren, and most of the elite areas. Should I make a Me/E, Me/A, Me/N or what? I seen many cryer builds on pvxwiki and don't know what would be best to use. Could someone recommend me a good primary profession and a secondary profession? Thanks!!!!

Jun 04, 2009, 12:20 AM // 00:20	#2
Kiva-chan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: Mo/A	Just go Mesmer primary so that you can switch your secondary based on what your group needs/what area you're doing?

Jun 04, 2009, 12:23 AM // 00:23	#3
Braxton619 Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2008 Profession: A/W	Which secondary would you recommend to begin with though?

Jun 04, 2009, 12:43 AM // 00:43	#4
Taixen Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: England Profession: A/	Considering that you'll need to ascend before you reach any of the area's you'd be participating in groups with the secondary you chose doesn't overly matter as you'll have already ascended by the time you reach the area you plan to do. I personally cose /E as my Mesmers Secondary so that I could use GoLE to help with energy management as I got used to it.

Jun 04, 2009, 12:50 AM // 00:50	#5
Kerwyn Nasilan Forge Runner Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: WHERE DO YOU THINK Profession: W/	Me/A Assassin's Promise Mesmers are godly.

Jun 04, 2009, 02:41 AM // 02:41	#6
Boneyard Spleeneater Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle Guild: Immortal Corruptors [GWAR] Profession: Me/N	I second the AP Mes. I run that with Discordway, and other than some dungeons, I can go pretty much anywhere I want with little if any trouble.

Jun 04, 2009, 03:13 AM // 03:13	#7
Hanging Man Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Deep in the Shire	yup go /A. When you start to VQ Me/A AP+"YMLaD"+Vanguard Assasin+CoP blows shit up

Jun 04, 2009, 04:43 AM // 04:43	#8
Rasco Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2009 Profession: Mo/	Personally, being a monk allows me to use Jesus Beam Jesus+ Cry of Pain = FTW [Allusion much?] ofc mezzies works too FYI: Jesus Beam = Ray of Judgement

Jun 04, 2009, 05:52 AM // 05:52	#9
ShoGunTheOne Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Undercity Guild: 泰瑞亚联盟 Profession: E/	making a E/Me with Ether Renewal can garentee you with almost unlimited energy

Jun 04, 2009, 06:20 AM // 06:20	#12
Rasco Ascalonian Squire Join Date: May 2009 Profession: Mo/	and how about the 30 second downtime of arcane echo? cough cough *laughs uncontrollably okay ill shut up.

Jun 04, 2009, 06:41 AM // 06:41	#13
MercenaryKnight Forge Runner Join Date: May 2006 Guild: Wolf of Shadows [WoS] Profession: P/	Me/mo or Mo/me is pretty much the best you can get. Max out the smiting and bring arcane mimicry as well as arcane echo and probably auspicious incantation for energy during the arcane echo. That just helps incase not using a bip or to get initial casts off. Also, think everyone should consider ice imps instead of vanguard sins since they provide a snare and aoe damage while surviving to cast multiple times.

Jun 04, 2009, 06:55 AM // 06:55	#15
Elephantaliste Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: adblockplus.or	you can use Echo elite aswell, or Glyph of Renewal for more versatility.

Jun 04, 2009, 08:24 AM // 08:24	#18
Elephantaliste Krytan Explorer Join Date: Nov 2008 Guild: adblockplus.or	we aren't talking exclusively about EtherRenewal, but in case of Ether Renewal, unless it has some synergy like Infuse Spamming or like Doa Ether Cryer team builds with symbiosys, dedicating a elite slot just for e-management of a cryer build is probably a waste. To Op : Mesmer is a good choice since you can call hexes like VoR with more attribute points, you can add E-Surge to the spike aswell. having Mo as secondary of primary allows you to use RoJ aswell.